1. Mar 10, 2015 Big Six Introduction. This name goes by various names: Big Six, Wheel of Fortune, Money Wheel, Big Wheel, and Lucky Wheel. Whatever the name, it is a big vertical wheel where the player bets on the number it will stop on. The odds are conveniently the same as the number. For example, a bet on 5 will pay 5 to 1.
2. What are the Big Six and Big Eight bet? In simplest terms, it is a play in craps when a player bets whether a six or an eight will be rolled before the seven. Basically, the dice are rolled until a six or seven comes up and the player wins or loses.
3. Big Red The number 7 or a bet for any 7 to appear bones A slang term for the dice box numbers The place numbers (4,5,6,8,9,10) boxcars A roll of or bet on 12 C center field Nine, often called Center Field Nine change only when a player buys into a game specifically with cash, the 'only' means no bets are being placed at the time of the buy in.
4. The Big 8 and Big 6 Bets T he Big 8 bet and Big 6 bet are the same as the Place bets for the 8 and 6 except that they pay off differently and are located in different spots on the layout. The Big 8 and Big 6 are such sucker bets that most people don’t bet them, so it’s become uncommon to see them on a craps table anymore.

Big six and big eight are two of the popular craps bets. As you can see on the craps table, they stick out because of their large numbers and prominence on the board, so it catches the attention of people. Really though, this bet is pretty simple yet it does not have really great odds.

When I’m gambling at the casino and playing craps, I love the place bet on the 6 and 8. If I’m not playing for the camera, I’ll typically bet about $12 max on the place 6 and place 8. If you see me place betting more, then I’m doing it for your entertainment.

I see this comment all the time in my craps videos, paraphrase, ‘why don’t you put a few hundred on the 6 and 8 place bets instead of odds?’

I’ll present this argument for why I do not make such a play: any time a player fails to max odds on the point of 6 or 8, and makes a place bet instead, that player is effectively betting the Big 6 or Big 8.

EXPLANATION OF THE BIG 6 AND BIG 8 BET

To make the Big 6 or Big 8 bet, the player places his chips in the area marked Big 6 or Big 8. The Big 6 and Big 8 bet is a self-service bet, meaning that the player makes the bet on his own.

The Big 6 and Big 8 are two separate bets. The player is not required to bet both the Big 6 and the Big 8. A player makes bet one or the other or both. For example, here is a bet on the Big 8 only…

Once the player has made his or her bet on either the Big 6 or Big 8 or both, the player will win if the corresponding number, that the player bet on, rolls before 7 rolls.

For example, in the picture directly above, if 8 rolls, the player will win, whereas if the 7 rolls, the player will lose. A win will pay even money. Therefore, in the picture directly above, if 8 rolls, the player will win $3 because the player bet $3.

If 6, 8, or 7 does not roll, then the shooter will continue rolling until a 6, 8, or 7 rolls. The Big 6 and Big 8 are multi-roll bets.

If this win-loss condition sounds familiar, that’s because it’s the exact same win-loss condition as the place bet on 6 and 8.

ALMOST NO ONE BETS THE BIG 6 AND BIG 8

If you watch my videos, you’ll almost never see anyone betting the Big 6 or Big 8. I’ve looked for it, and I’ve not seen it. The Big 6 and Big 8 bets are horrible bets. The vast majority of craps players know it, which is why almost no one ever bets it.

As much as I play craps, I see someone betting the Big 6 and Big 8 maybe once a year.

The Big 6 and Big 8 make no sense as a bet because for the exact same-win conditions, you can give your money to the dealer and be paid more money for the exact same win-loss. A $12 bet on the Big 6 pays $12, whereas a $12 bet on the place 6 bet pays $14. With both bets, the bet wins if 6 rolls and loses if 7 rolls.

Even if the player messes up and bets $10, the place bet is still better than the Big 6, in the above case. A $10 place bet pays $11, versus $10 payout for the same $10 Big 6 bet.

Bottom line is that the Big 6 and Big 8 are bets relegated to the player who is a noob and has no idea what they’re doing. It’s such a bad bet that Atlantic City casinos are not allowed to offer it.

Las Vegas casinos are phasing it out because almost no one bets it. Here is a picture of a bet that has been introduced in lieu of the Big 6 and Big 8 bet…

Hopefully, I established to you that the Big 6 and Big 8 are horrible bets. But, did you know that when you are making a place bet, you are effectively betting the Big 6 and Big 8?

THE PRACTICAL EFFECT

If I told you, hey ‘bet your money on the Big 6 or Big 8’, you’d tell me that I was crazy and didn’t know anything about craps. You would tell me that the Big 6 and Big 8 are a stupid bet that pays EVEN MONEY when the chances of losing are greater than the chances of winning. That’s why no one bets it.

However, let’s think about the place bet. Let’s say you make a place bet on the 6. You bet $60 on the place 6. A win would pay $70.

If it were an odds bet, you would be betting $60 to win $72. You are missing $2.

If you think about it, you made a $50 odds bet, and then you made a $10…Big 6 bet. Why? Because the $50 pays $60 and then the $10 pays even money. That’s how you end up with $70 payout on a place bet. The house ‘confiscated’ the extra $2 as a fee, which is how the house derives its house edge.

If the player makes a place bet of $6 on the 6 and $6 on the 8, the same effect remains. The house pays true odds on the $5 portion of the bet and then pays even money on the $1 portion. So the house treats the $1 as if it were a Big 6 or Big 8 bet.

You might say if you can’t just make a naked odds bet. That’s true when neither the 6 or 8 are the point and you are trying to access the 6 or 8 via the pass line or come bet. There’s a cost to the odds bet in that you must make a pass line bet to get to the odds bet. If you bet $15on a 3,4,5x game, your expected loss is 21 cents on that bet in the long run. Remember, you will win 8 times automatically on the come out roll, so that offsets the disadvantage after the come out roll. That’s why over the long run, you will lose 21 cents for your $15 come bet (note that if the table minimum is less than $15, the expected loss is less).

However, 21 cents is still cheaper than $2, which you would be missing from your $60 come bet.

So, do you want to pay 21 cents or pay $2 for the same bet?

CONCLUSION

If you insist on making place bets on the 6 or 8, at least max your odds on the point of 6 or 8 before making a place bet. I’ve seen many players decline max odds, and instead place bet the opposite number. For example, if the point is 6, they will take less than max odds on the 6, and then load up place bets on the 8. The player in that case, is better off, in the long run, not place betting the 8 and shifting the place bet 8 money to the odds on the 6.

Alternatively, you are better off in the long run trying to access the 6 and 8 by making come bets and then taking odds on the 6 and 8. This strategy works better if you take odds when the point is 4, 5, 9, 10. If you decline the odds when the point is 4, 5, 9, 0r 10, then you must do a loss analysis and compare your play versus simply place betting. Also, this strategy works best on a table with a higher odds multiplier, and you are willing to bet the higher odds multiplier.

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Craps is a much easier game to learn than most people think. The basic premise is simple: you are betting on the outcome of the roll of two dice. The only thing that makes the game confusing is all the different types of bets you can place.

Most of these bets are straightforward, but it’s just the fact that there are so many of them that make the game a little complicated. You don’t need to know how each one works to enjoy playing the game, so it’s not like you have to learn them all before you start playing.

The bets we would say you absolutely must understand are the pass line and don’t pass wagers, the come and don’t come wagers, and the odds bets. We explain these in detail below, and also provide information on all the types of bets. Here is a list of the bets we discuss below:

• Pass Line & Don’t Pass Wagers
• Come & Don’t Come Bets
• Odds Bets
• Place Win
• Place Lose
• Buy
• Lay
• Big 6 and Big 8
• Hardways
• Field
• Proposition Bets

The pass line and don’t pass wagers are the most commonly placed bets in craps and also the most straightforward. A shooter will usually have to place one of them before making their come-out roll; and in some casinos, players must make one of them if they also want to place other wagers. These bets have to be placed before the come-out roll, and they both pay out at even money (1:1) when they win.

A pass line bet wins if the value of the come-out roll is 7 or 11 and loses if it’s 2, 3, or 12. If it’s any other value, then a point is established at that value, and the pass line wager remains on the table until the point is rolled again or 7 is rolled. If the point is rolled, the wager wins; if 7 is rolled, the wager loses.

A don’t pass wager wins if the value of the come-out roll is 2 or 3 and loses if it is 7 or 11. If the value is 12, then the bet is pushed, neither winning nor losing. Just like the pass line bet, it remains on the table if a point is established. The don’t pass wager loses if the point is rolled again and wins if a 7 is rolled.

Come & Don’t Come Bets

These wagers are very similar to the pass line and don’t pass bets, the main difference being that they are placed after the point is established rather than before. They can be a little confusing, so please make sure you fully understand the concept before placing them.

If the first roll after you have placed a come bet is a 7 or 11, then you win your wager. If a 2, 3, or 12 is rolled, then you lose. If any other number is rolled, this is the point for your come wager. So if a 5 is rolled, for example, then 5 becomes your point. Your wager stays in place and will win if a 5 is rolled again, and lose if a 7 is rolled. A come bet may be thought of as a personalized pass line bet, where the point number is established on the first roll after it has been placed.

By the same token, a don’t come bet is like a personalized don’t pass bet. It will lose if a 7 or 11 comes up on the first roll after you place it, and win if a 2 or 3 is rolled. Any other number establishes the point for your don’t come wager, which will then stay in place until it either wins or loses. It will win if a 7 is rolled, and lose if the point is rolled.

Both of these bets are paid out at even money (1:1) when they win.

Odds bets are a bit like side bets that can be made after a point is established. They are essentially extensions of each of the four bets mentioned above. There are four different types:

• Pass Line Odds
• Don’t Pass Odds
• Come Odds
• Don’t Come Odds

You would place a pass line odds bet to complement your pass line bet following a point being established. It pays if the point is then rolled before a seven, and loses if a seven is rolled. The big advantage of this type of bet is that it’s paid out at true odds when it wins i.e. there’s no house edge. The payouts vary, depending on what the point is.

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When you place a pass line odds bet, you are said to be “taking the odds.” Because there’s no house edge, the amount you can stake is limited. Typically, you can stake up to three times the amount on your original pass line wager, but some casinos allow more.

A don’t pass odds bet is placed to complement a don’t pass bet. It pays if a seven is rolled before the point, and loses if the point is rolled first. Bets of this type are also paid out at true odds with no house edge and, again, the payouts vary depending on what the point is.

You are said to be “laying the odds” if you place a don’t pass odds bet. The amount you can stake is limited in the same way as a pass line odds bet. Come odds and don’t come odds bets are based on exactly the same principle. They just use the point that is established following a come or don’t come bet.

Place win bets can be made after a come-out roll when a point has been established. They can be on any of the numbers 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 or 10, and they win if the number chosen is rolled before a 7. The payouts vary depending on which number you have chosen.

These are basically the opposite of place win bets. They can be on the same choice of numbers (4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10), but with a place lose, you win if a 7 is rolled before the number you have chosen. The payouts again vary depending on which number is chosen.

A buy bet is largely the same as a place win in that you are betting on a specific number to be rolled before a 7. The difference is that the payouts are higher, with the trade-off that you have to pay a 5% commission. At some casinos, this commission is payable when you place your stake, and at others it’s only payable if you win. The payouts once again vary based on which number has been chosen.

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A lay bet is the opposite of a buy bet, and also comes with a 5% commission. With this wager, you are betting on a 7 being rolled before a specific number, in the same way as a place lose. It offers higher payouts than a place lose, which vary depending on the number chosen.

These bets are very straightforward, and both pay even money (1:1) if successful. A big 6 wins if any 6 is thrown before a 7, and a big 8 wins if any 8 is thrown before a 7.

Hardways

When a number is rolled as a double, it’s said to have been rolled the hard way. A hard 8, for example, is a double 4. That is how wagers of this type get their names. They are pretty simple and are based on certain doubles being rolled before a 7.

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You can bet on any of a hard 4, a hard 6, a hard 8, or a hard 10. If the relevant hard number is rolled before a 7, you win the bet. As with some other wagers, the payouts are determined by the number bet on.

Field

A field bet is always settled on the next roll. It will win if a 2, 3, 4, 9, 10, 11, or 12 is rolled and lose if 5, 6, 7, or 8 is rolled. It pays 1:1 unless a 2 or 12 is rolled, in which case it pays double (2:1).

There are several different proposition bets available in craps, all of which are settled on the next roll. We explain each of these below.

It’s worth mentioning that proposition bets come with higher payouts than previously mentioned options. The house edge is also higher, however, and players are generally advised to avoid them for this reason. However, there’s nothing wrong with using them if you’re willing to accept more risk in exchange for potentially bigger rewards.

• Any 7 (Payout 4:1). Wins if 7 is rolled next.
• Any 11 (Payout 15:1). Wins if 11 is rolled next.
• Any Craps (Payout 7:1). Wins if any of 2, 3 or 12 is rolled next.
• Ace Deuce (Payout 15:1). Wins if 3 is rolled next.
• Aces (Payout 30:1). Wins if 2 is rolled next.
• Boxcar (Payout 30:1). Wins if 12 is rolled next.